The Russian Empire existed for less than 200 years. The Empire of Japan traces its lineage for the past like 2000 years.

I agree with this guy. Can we be friends?

Of course we can

Baptism of Kievan Rus' took place in the tenth century.

"The Empire of Japan (Japanese: 大日本帝国, Hepburn: Dai Nippon Teikoku) is a historical nation-state along with its colonies, protectorates, mandates, and other territories that existed from the Meiji Restoration in 1868 until the enactment of the 1947 constitution and subsequent formation of modern Japan."

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I guess I was more referring to their imperial house, which has held some form of significant power since at least 660

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The state was a "loose association" of places, and fell to the mongols in the 1240s. I don't consider that a continuous empire...

Don't forget that Alaska, the largest US state, once used to be a part of the Russian Empire. I consider that a great loss. Alaskans, we'll welcome you with our open arms.

So you concede that your Assertion about the Russian Empire was incorrect, so you chose to focus on an unrelated detail?

Isn't it noon in your neck of the woods? Why don't you work?

Don't you get it? Russia transcends the notion of "Empire". Russia is Russia. Russia is more like Phoenix Bird. If winning this debate is so important to you, then I'll be wise/gracious enough to let this "durak" coolby win. Does everyone agree with me? I'm sure it will make his quarantine all worth while.

BTW, admin has removed our other thread. Freedom of speech is just an illusion... even on KH. I'm done.

Don't worry about my work! I have it all taken care of.

That's funny the other threads were deleted. I don't really expect typing improvement forums to be a bastion of free speech so root can do whatever he or she pleases.

That "Russia transcends empire" was not your original point. There are plenty of societies as old as Russia. And Russia isn't even as permanent as them. The Mongols obliterated Russia in the 1200s dude.

"... so root can do whatever he or she pleases."
No offense, but wow, you sound like a human sheep, dude. Do you always let others push you around? I can only hope you don't let your government do "whatever it pleases", esp. regarding your second amendment rights.

Do you even know your facts?

Ofc I do, @coolby's lover-boy. Do you know yours?

Websites are not public property. If the guy owns or is employed by the website they can do whatever they want.
Of course I don't let people shove me around. But the forums on a typing website that is privately owned are not where free speech dies.

Seinfeld why do you ignore most of my questions? Do you have trouble coming up with responses?

Hmmm... idk, maybe because they're worth being ignored? Any more dumb questions?

"Websites are not public property. If the guy owns or is employed by the website they can do whatever they want."

Yeah, right... tell that to US Congressmen who interrogate (= grill) Google/Facebook/Twitter (etc) CEO's on a regular basis. US government got them by their balls. Keep living in your fantasy land.

How do you like that Strait of Stalin* idea? If US government keeps pushing its flavor of "democracy" round the world, it may incur God's wrath one day. What goes around, comes around.

"In God We Trust" much? When will US government remove this sentimental religious nonsense from its banknotes, coolby? That doesn't sound like secularism to me.

*https://m.demotivation.us/tags/stalin.html

"The Mongols obliterated Russia in the 1200s dude."
Are you actually gloating, pindos*? We sent them back where they came from in 1380 (Battle of Kulikovo). He who laughs last, laughs best! Live by the sword, die by the sword. In 1380, US wasn't even a British colony. It wasn't even on the map XD XD

Furthermore, it's not like US hasn't been invaded once or twice in their history. Need I remind you about 9/11 and Pearl Harbor?

US started off its history with the barbaric conquest of the lands which once belonged to the Natives. Natives were duped and slaughtered in thousands by the Old World settlers (= "human vermin"). You should be ashamed of your ancestors but I'm sure you'll come up with some sort of contentious justification. You always do.

* "Pindos" or "Pendos" (rus: Пиндос) in the Russian language is a derogatory ethnic slur, used to refer to Americans. Originally, the term was used to refer to US military servicemen, but it gradually became a universal disparaging term to refer to all Americans. Other slur terms to refer to the United States such as Pindosiya and Pindostan (rus: Пиндосия, Пиндостан) have also been derived. Some sources claim that the term was first used by Russian military servicemen during Kosovo War, where they allegedly heard this term. According to Russian soldiers, it was perfect fit for "armed to the teeth and coward American soldier".

Are you saying that the US govt has them by the balls to open up their free speech or reduce their free speech? Because the websites you list have all come under fire from both people who think they should be less and people who think they should be more regulatory.

Are you equilibrating Russian nuclear weapon use to "God's wrath"? Didn't you just criticize the use of nuclear weapons as used by the US? Two wrongs don't make a right.

Fewer than 10,000 people died cumulatively in those attacks yet the magnitude of their significance in US history is so great. It speaks to the relative security from international attacks that the country faces. How many Russians have died fighting on Russian soil?

What? Name one instance in which I have agreed with a straw man about sympathizing with US related atrocities? One. I have agreed with you every step of the way that the US has done terrible things. American Colonialism was terrible, I don't have justification for that. One can explain the racist/genocidal justification of the time in order to learn about it, but that doesn't make it good or right.

The difference between you and I is that I will accept fault, I will accept that my country is not perfect. I don't recall an instance when you have accepted or acknowledged that Russia or anything we have talked about has been at fault or wrong. THAT is the sign of a blinded nationalist. A narcissist. A guy who digs his head in the sand and doesn't respond to questions he doesn't have actual answers to. Feeling the need to attack my beliefs and my country and my values constantly reflects a lack of interest in considering or reflecting on your own. I say "Russia does x" and you don't respond with much about Russia but instead "yes well the US does this".

It truly seems like you equate admitting wrongdoing or mistakes with weakness. Is that true? There is very little room for growth or humility with that mentality, in my opinion.

Hahahahaha thank you for making sure I am aware you are using a derogatory ethnic slur towards me. Good to verify that you are trying to be offensive.

Happy (belated) Thanksgiving, defensive coolby!

Yankees GO HOME!

wth are these threads lol. Oy vey!

lol and in many Russian villages a middle-class American could buy everything there and still have money to fly home. Seriously you spend like 5 bucks on a couple bottles of vodka a few packs of smokes and a full tank of gas and they look at you like you're pranking them. Murica... (love everybody just had to throw my two cents in)

Meanwhile, Russo-Ukrainian elites can literally elect (= buy) a US president these days; Russian Trump vs Ukrainian Biden ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°) How old are you, sir? You sound like a boomer who still holds dearly those outdated, offensively naïve, and condescending Russophobic stereotypes about the current state of the Russian economy. Lol you literally plagiarized a scene from "EuroTrip" (2004): they had $10-20 remaining which was apparently enough to throw a lavish dinner party in Bratislava (Slovakia). So, this is how you do your research (*SMH*). Perhaps, you meant Romanian or Hungarian gypsy villages. Actually, what you just described here might be the case for that one village in Chukotka where Mr Roman Abramovich once used to live. I'll give you that lol. Oh yeah, I've been to your Bible Belt, Rust Belt and post-ironically visited your tornado-torn trailer parks (= makeshift US villages) in Southeast Texas (Beaumont/Vidor). In some areas of Detroit, I can literally buy a house for $10-20 'nuff said XD XD XD

Most Russians would agree they'd rather live modestly than have an expensive or inaccessible healthcare system. New Covid-19 death record in US: 3,127. That's really sad.

"oy vey"??? Are you Jewish by any chance? That would explain a lot. In US, first- and second-generation Jewish immigrants tend to have some inherited negative bias towards Soviet and Russian governments, despite the fact that the Red Army had liberated thousands [jews] from the Nazi concentration camps.

Last time I checked, ~40 million Americans still live below the poverty line. It seems that American educational system has failed you. Here, educate yourself:
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States#Poverty_and_age
*https://www.povertyusa.org/facts
*https://www.census.gov/topics/income-poverty/poverty.html

Plus, income inequality has increased drastically in US over the recent years. Gini coefficient is below 50%, 48% to be exact. It's on par with Mexico's (0.47) and Madagascar's (0.475). However, woke Berkeley and Ivy League kids will have you convinced that the gender pay gap is a much more "problematic" issue at hand.

I understand that you, Americans, don't like it when your noses get rubbed in your own pile of noxious cr@p. Tough luck! You expect your vassals to bow down and behave like obedient lapdogs: G7 summit = USA + its 6 vassal states. You even treat your closest ally, Canada, like a bítch: no nukes, get treated like a bítch. I absolutely <3 when US politicians "dig their heads in the sand and not respond to questions they don't have actual answers to" when foreign politicians like Putin and Xi call out their bull$hit. US government believes that America holds moral high ground on the world stage, and its president is the leader of the so-called Free "Democratic" World. Give me a break. Well, that could've been the case but then the bombings of Hiroshima/Nagasaki/Belgrade and the post-Soviet NATO's eastward expansion took place, permanently eliminating any hope. So proud of Russian Navy boys who forced U.S. destroyer 'John McCain' out of Russian waters in Vladivostok last month. Go Russian Navy! So glad we built a military base in La Orchila, Venezuela. Your beloved Monroe Doctrine doesn't apply to all South American countries.

Anyway, what are you and @coolby doing here talking to me? Go to RT.com (Russia Today). You two Russophobes will have a field day over there! You'll be fighting Russian trolls left, right and center.

gl!

Just as public universities, public websites are indeed public property. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to access them duh. And no, guys who run these websites can absolutely NOT(!) do whatever they want. Would you like Google and Facebook to continue data-mining the cr@p out of you? I was merely pointing out the ever-draconian tactics and antics of the US Congress. There should be another way to influence the behavior of these companies, not with a stick of law and scare tactics.

"Fewer than 10,000 people died cumulatively in those attacks"
Savage comeback! Did you get that, family members of those unfortunate victims?! You sound like a cold-blooded cynic, sir... respect, respect! That's just a start though. ~300,000 Americans (= Murmansk population) died due to coronavirus in 2020. Trump thinks this [attack] was caused by China... go figure!

416,800 Americans died in WW2 on US soil and abroad combined. Here, educate yourself:
*https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/factsheets/fs_americas_wars.pdf

"Hahahahaha thank you for making sure I am aware you are using a derogatory ethnic slur towards me. Good to verify that you are trying to be offensive."
It's called tit-for-tat, pal. Your countrymen (jokingly?) call Russians "russkies" and Americans of Chinese descent "ABC" (American Born Chinese). So yeah, don't sweat. We have an ethnic slur reserved for you, too. Get off your high horse, amerikashka.

It'd be myopic of me to say that Russia is perfect in every single way but you keep confusing "nationalist" and "patriot", bud. (I thought you were a native English speaker.) There's even a saying: "Russia has two troubles - fools and roads". Actually, I know what you're trying to do here. You're using "soft power" to make me say something negative about Russia so you could later leap on it like a sumo wrestler. Unlike Trump, Biden will be using "soft power" in Europe.

In case you didn't realize, I support Anti-Hegemonic Movement and a multipolar world. NO MORE HEGEMONS. NO MORE TYRANTS. SPREAD THIS MESSAGE.

According to comrade @coolby: American flag-waver is called "patriot", Russian patriot is called "nationalist" or "vatnik".

Genderfluid @root will probably delete this thread altogether, further proving my point.

Margarita Simonyan (RT chief editor) will eat you guys for breakfast.

Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky (né Eidelstein) will rip you a new one, my gender-neutral American friends. He's a Russian version of the deceased John McCain. FYI: not that it matters but Zhirik happens to be half-Jewish.

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Vladimir_Zhirinovsky
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Cz7mhkDm8 (Zhirinovsky on George W Bush)
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=024RFa5tGf8 (Жириновский обещает Кондолизе Райс русскую сперму | Zhirinovsky promises Condoleezza Rice some Russian cum)

Have you heard about this guy? He threatened to drown US by tilting Earth's axis. Disturbing stuff.

WRT Iraq War, this is what he actually said about the then Secretary of State [Condoleezza Rice]:
"She is a bl@ck wh0re who needs a good c0ck. Send her here, one of our divisions will make her happy in the barracks one night. She will choke on Russian sperm as it will be leaking out of her ears... until she crawls to the US embassy in Moscow on her knees."

In 2006, he again disparaged Condoleezza Rice (by then America's Secretary of State) by saying:
"Condoleezza Rice released a coarse anti-Russian statement. This is because she is a single woman who has no children. She loses her reason because of her late single status…If she has no man by her side at her age, he will never appear. Even if she had a whole selection of men to choose from she would stay single because her soul and heart have hardened… Condoleezza Rice needs a company of soldiers. She needs to be taken to barracks where she would be satisfied. On the other hand, she can hardly be satisfied because of her age."
-- I'm not saying I approve of his somewhat "firm language" use, but we're all adults here. I'm only quoting him.

And here's what he said about "tovarish" John Ivanovich McCain himself. He's the one wearing a light-gray jacket:
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVdLFkUK6OY (Zhirinovsky: McCain Doesn’t Deserve a Eulogy, More Like a Cage to Contain Him!)

... mind blown?


WRT Strait of Stalin: America will do it to itself one day. No need for Russian "help".

Alas, Russophobia is the only racism tolerated in the West. Russophobia happens to be a rather profitable business, too. Luckily, we have media outlets like RT but that's like a drop in the bucket.

Who are you talking to?

Both (u + @coolby), in case u haven't noticed.

Neat. Nobodies reading your posts. Have a good one!

You seem to be reading them anyway otherwise you would've stopped talking to me long ago. Take care.

Are you trying to say people don't read my posts because they can't handle my POV? Perhaps, it's too edgy for this crowd, I know.

I didn't read them. Because they are long and rambly... and I don't care lol

I did see them. But I didn't read them lol. There's no point to either :)

Show me any evidence of Ukraine being involved with the election of Biden. Any. That claim is false.

I love Russia. I am not Russia-phobic. You're arguing with some caricature of an American that is not me. Please stop ignoring the fact that I like Russia, and I like the US. I have been to Russia. I do not think Putin or Trump are overall good forces for the world.

Have you heard of Bernie Sanders? He is massively popular with woke Ivy league kids and his main thing is the income discrepancy. He has also spoken about gender pay gap, but much more about increasing income inequality. You are once again completely wrong.

Absolutely wrong about the G7 and us wanting other countries to bow down. I (and I'm sure mattman) don't support that kind of policy. None of us have complete control over the policies that politicians take. Just because our country does it doesn't mean we support it. That kind of policy frustrates me to like it clearly frustrates you.

You seem to be much more interested in divisiveness and a "we are actually better than you" attitude than anything else. There are pros and cons to both of our countries. Most people want the same things, and the success of a country is predicated on how many people can live comfortably, healthily, happily. You argue like a wounded dog. Lashing out when you feel attacked, failing to introspect almost completely.

RT is state-controlled media. They have a very strong inherent bias to favorably depict the Russian gov't. If I wanted actual reporting of news and not propaganda, I would not view their news.

So, I take it you can't provide a single counterargument. Your opinion (lack of it) on this subject is noted. In that case, beat it, you unimpressive intellectual pygmy. You've been intellectually outclassed.

Now, over to you, tovarish @coolby...

"state-sponsored"
Here you go throwing labels around agian. It may surprise you but you haven't exactly said anything new to me. I'm well aware that it's a Kremlin-backed Russian media outlet (btw very popular in N America & EU!) which came about as a result of vicious Russophobic propaganda from Western media channels like CNN/MSNBC. You're so naive for thinking that you'd shame me by pointing out RT's "state-sponsored" nature lol. Pu$$y youtube even tags it for gullible Americans such as yourself: "RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government". That's why I'm not surprised why you'd think this [argument] could act as your ultimate trump card in this round.

It's as if there's something inherently terrible with RT being a state-sponsored news outlet. Let me ask you this, though. Is it any different than your lopsided US state-sponsored "Voice of America", "Liberty Radio" (RFERL) or Spanish-speaking Cuban "Radio y Televisión Martí"? These 3 media outlets broadcast Russophobic US propaganda 24/7/365. According to our Übermensch coolby here, it's okay for US to subsidize its state-sponsored TV/radio/newspaper outlets, but God forbid if Russia owns a single English-speaking Kremlin-backed news channel outlet; sounds like another double standard. In case you didn't realize, there's an on-going information war. As you know, all is fair in love and war. Also, if you believe that Putin is bad for Russia, then I'm afraid the Capitol Hill and Pentagon got you where they need.

Dang it, I really need to spell everything out for you, guys. Will you ever be able to handle alternative POV?? US and Western media (except France & Quebec maybe) will never allow their news presenters to say anything positive/nice about Russia nor invite any pro-Kremlin guests. Tovarish coolby, would you kindly look into this, please? Macron is a total jérk btw.

You would never allow "Sputnik V" vaccine to be injected into your body. You'd rather die, right? Well, be my guest then.

"I love Russia. I am not Russia-phobic. You're arguing with some caricature of an American that is not me. Please stop ignoring the fact that I like Russia, and I like the US. <<<I have been to Russia.>>> I do not think Putin or Trump are overall good forces for the world."

Except that I do remember asking you earlier this year whether you've been to Russia in the past. You said "no" and provided following snide justification: "Do you have to visit a country to form an opinion about [Putin]?" (or smth like that) Ofc that thread was taken down a long time ago. No one here is buying "your love for Russia". You've already said enough to permanently revoke your right to visit this country (jk ^__^). Sergey Lavrov should impose sanctions against coolby.

Btw it was you who set wheels in motion by starting talking trash about my president. You brought it upon yourself. If you're against Putin, you're against Russia. If you can't understand that, then you're hopeless. If it wasn't for him, we'd have a NATO base in Crimea right now.

If Trump has proved anything, it's a) US election system is utterly flawed and archaic, and b) an outsider can still become a US president which is a good thing actually. So, don't hate on Donald "Fedorovich" Trump just yet.

"You argue like a wounded dog."

In 1799, George Washington once said, "…make them believe, that offensive operations, often times, is the surest, if not the only (in some cases) means of defence".

Granted, my writing style is somewhat aggressive and non-sheepish. After all, "the best defense is a good offense". I'm quoting your first president. See, I'm absolutely NOT against US. It's a great country.

Biden. Burisma. Ukraine. Poroshenko. Kolomoyskiy. Hunter. Zelensky. Biden. Biden. BIDEN. I'll let you guys connect the dots.

You should really try taking on Dima Vorobiev. He'd be delighted to rip you a new one. He's the real Grandmaster between us two.
*https://www.quora.com/profile/Dima-Vorobiev

WRT Vladimir Putin: Watch this video (skip to 17:10) -->
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z7BRbxxZoo ("Who is History's Greatest Leader?")

You sound just like this brainwashed trans-Atlantic cousin *smh*


PS: Don't assume that Russian people forgot about the North Russia intervention campaign of 1918.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Russia_intervention

God! Don't you just love the toxicity of these forms?

Lol right one reply to this guy and he needs to write 6 page manifesto lol .

mattman2255: "I didn't read them. Because they are long and rambly... and I don't care lol"

*Posts reply the following day*

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Bernie Sanders is not exactly American Spartacus but I wish him well. No ill feelings.

It's all good fun, though! We're just shooting the breeze. They say something, then I push back and vice versa. Politics is not out there in space y'know; it's down here on Earth. So, it's important to talk about these things. I'll step away for a sec to get some covfefe.

We're keeping it very civil here. No tolerance for harassment (FYI: collective noun for a group of harriers) and discrimination of any kind!!!

*Covfefe, as we call it

Oops, a typo. Good catch!

"as WE call it"
Exactly who is "we"? I hope you meant that ironically though, i.e. royal "we". It may interest you to know but I was born in USA. Just like you, I'm a US citizen but my political views are polar opposite to yours, obviously. I absolutely <3 both countries (US/Russia). I'm not saying my views are any better, just different.

We can only hope you're not this patronizing and "fun" IRL. Have a good one!

There's something about "Ubuntu" (= Keyhero's font) which makes people write toxic and ironic comments ^__^

Btw @coolby is an accomplished sealion. He totally sealioned me :)))) Like Wendy Wright (religious fundamentalist), he constantly asks people to "show [him] the evidence". In his case though, it's w.r.t. Putin's alleged involvement in the killings of several Russian journalists. FYI: Wendy doesn't believe in the theory of evolution.

sealioning = argumentum ad nauseam

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ELWTft6wes (Richard Dawkins says ''Show Me The Evidence'' for 10 minutes)
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity. It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate".

Haha Richard Dawkins would like evidence for the existence of God. That's a pretty fair ask, seeing as there is none (that would go against the concept of faith). He asks for evidence to demonstrate that a belief in God is unlike everything else that humans process, and gives people an opportunity to realize and consider that.

What else is one supposed to do when they are repeatedly ignored and presented with no support for a claim?? Of course you ask for evidence. That is how people can give credit to or discredit claims.

I ultimately agree there is not any evidence to directly link Putin to the killing of journalists. But there is clearly a statistically insurmountable point to be made that Russia journalists that are anti-Putin die with greater frequency than dissident journalists in any other first world country. That is extremely suspect.

Of course I was kidding. Covfefe was a spelling mistake made by an incompetent president, I was kidding by correcting your misspelling of a misspelling (both are incorrect anyway).

The best defense is not a good offense in discussion. The whole point of it is that all the facts should come to light. Not that one party should be aggressive enough to silence the other or ignore the other to the point that they think their points make more sense. The point is that truth wins.

How else would I know what Durak is? How else would I know that Russian orthodox Christians singing in Church on Spilled blood or the cathedrals in the Moscow Kremlin is absolutely beautiful? Or that the largest cannon and broken bell is in the Kremlin? Or that the Peterhoff Palace fountains are powered by gravity, and you take hovercraft to get there? Or that the countryside of Novosibirsk is filled with beautiful birch forests? Or that the Hermitage is the 2nd largest museum in the world? Or the apparent love for Rye bread that Russians have? Or that Activia yogurt isn't just targeted to women in Russia but instead is eaten by everyone? Or that you have different % milk fat milks in Russia? Of course I have been to Russia. It was a great experience.

When I made that point I was doing just that- one doesn't have to have been to a place in order to think about it, and say things about it. I can say "it is bad that diamond miners on Madagascar are worked to death and exploited", yet have never been there. My point is no less valid.

Wow. Re-read that point. "If you are against Putin you are against Russia". Unbelievable. That is an incredibly close minded thing to say, that one individual IS the representation of a country. Russia has 150 million people. Doesn't Putin hover around 70-75% popularity? Regardless, there are 10s of millions of RUSSIANS that don't support Putin. They're all anti-Russia? Maybe it's just that they don't believe everything they see on RT ;)

Russia doesn't need Crimea to stay strong. You already have ocean port access. If you believe that then you can be convinced of other falsehoods that are designed to convince you something is "good" for your country's strength (when really it serves to antagonize you against much of the western world).

Covfefe is the right "misspelling" though. It's now become a pretty cool neologism:
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covfefe

Wasn't it Wendy who kept asking Dawkins to show her the evidence though? She didn't know where to find ancient fossils... go to the Smithsonian, dumb bítch! ^___^

Looks like he's very pleased with his new title "King of Sealions". Sealions are not really interested in hearing the other side, no matter how much evidence you present them. They just want to waste their time. Ok, be my guest. I'll leave it at that.

Maybe US doesn't need its military presence in the Middle East and Japan to stay strong. US already has 100+ military bases around the world. You already have ocean port access. If you believe that then you can be convinced of other falsehoods that are designed to convince you something is "good" for your country's strength (when really it serves to antagonize you against much of the world).

*destroyed yet again by your own logic*

"But there is clearly a statistically insurmountable point to be made that Russia journalists that are anti-Putin die with greater frequency than dissident journalists in any other first world country. That is extremely suspect."

Reach out to Dmitry Peskov for further clarifications. When it comes to Putin's shenanigans, he's your guy.